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Updates ninja suit armour, increase resistance against lethal projectiles, decreases against melee #11823

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About The Pull Request

  • Decreases ninja armour melee protection from 60 to 30
  • Increases ninja laser and bullet protection both to 50
  • Increases ninja energy protection to 60 (to match the stamina flag)

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#11820 (comment)

The ninja mobility nerf hit them quite hard, I don't think they are too weak but I think it is far to compensate them with some high protections considering how difficult it is for them to heal. If the removal of laser alpha passthrough goes through, then there is even more to compensate them for.

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Tree with force of 10 deals 7 damage (previously would have been 4).

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Laser gun deals 10 damage (previously would have been 14)

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balance: Ninja melee armour lowered to 30, laser and bullet is now 50, and energy is now 60.
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@PowerfulBacon PowerfulBacon marked this pull request as ready for review November 1, 2024 22:48
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We'll have to see how it actually pans out, but this is at least something to make up for the loss of using invisibility to dodge lasers

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Rukofamicom commented Nov 2, 2024

I would honestly rather see them spawn with a variation of the shield belt from #11823, given they very specifically have issues with facing ranged weapons now that they can't as easily run away, and also have major issues with having their shurikens used against them. The shuriken issue is so bad that very few ninjas even try to utilize them.

The shield belt solves both problems

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Fronsis commented Nov 2, 2024

I'd have to agree with Ruko, giving them a shield belt is more fitting than buffing their armor, because they can still choose when to engage and disengage thanks to the shield and you can still have a fair chance to get them if you managed to get their shield down

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Don't think a shield is the ideal solution here as the Ninja is supposed to be sneaky and a shield is VERY visible.

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I hate to wreck your view of ninjas, but they aren't sneaky at all anymore. The stealth effect on the suit is way too expensive to use all the time, especially now that it has lost its combat utility. They can still be sneaky to a lesser extent than alien Sentinels, but without the x-ray they have no way of knowing when it is safe to be moving and when they need to freeze in place to avoid detection.

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I kind of wish the stealth actually gave you full stealth and not just some half-assed obvious stealth

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