Introducing “Super Mapper“ Status in HOT Tasking Manager #6706
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Love this idea! The key question for me (which I guess hasn't been decided yet), is the criteria at which a user is eligible for the 'super mapper' tag.
For example, for buildings, we could: (1) get all changesets for user --> (2) iterate changesets for ways,nodes,relations --> (3) filter ways where building=* That sort of thing could be repeated for different tags, for all users, on a schedule. It's not so important the data is realtime, so these stats could be calculated on a daily cron. Implementation Ideas (DB)Just throwing out ideas. In the db we could add a new table and enum
If an entry is made for a user in the table, they are eligible, and we display the eligibility on the frontend + notify other super mappers to confirm. If the status is approved, then we check the
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Thanks for initiating this discussion!
With specific criteria, we can still recognize more experienced mappers as Super Mappers. |
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Good question @spwoodcock I'd argue it should count global edits to OSM (i.e. not just filter for TM edits), for two reasons:
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I'd like to add another angle. I'm a bit reluctant to accept that we just need another threshold in some object count. We've seen people who supposedly adjusted their upload style in order to optimize their effort for obtaining a higher level. Even if you count objects and not changesets there are areas where these are low hanging fruits and others where mapping is really tricky. And if I understand the proposal correctly then mapping these places is where the new category should come into play. If I should define a "task force" for difficult mapping projects then I would follow these lines:
Do not expect me to come up with a formula for how to calculate such levels. I also know it will be pretty unrealistic to only accept mappers after some vetting of their mapping history (who is going to do that?). "Our" map is getting better every day. Really unmapped areas which pose a mapping challenge are hard to find. Otherwise a solution to the selection problem would be something like "set up a private project there, invite possible candidates, tell each one to map 5 tasks, see what they come up with". I just want to add this angle because I think we have to determine our skill requirements first before diving into how to measure that precisely. |
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Better late than never. A very much-needed initiation to distinguish and rank distinguished mapper who had contributed their heart and soul in mapping/validation. My friend who just created an OSM account achieved Advanced Mapper in few hours. So this was a necessary step.
And being this a Supper Mapper status in HOT TM, I also propose not to tally the aforementioned stats based on contribution using HOT TM as HOTOSM is just a tool and there are many Super Mappers who silently contribute their edits using other editors independently. This will be unfair to the OSM Community members. And as this is just a concept, I also request the team to rethink about this to rename this as Level 1-10 mapper categorizing them on the basis of predefined stats instead of defining someone as Super/Casual/Beginner mapper. It is already ranked in various OSM sites including HDYC. This is just my idea, let's hear from other fellow mappers/contributors as well. |
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As the Super Mapper feature has the higher priority, I would suggest to start defining a list of quantitative metrics that are interesting for identifying candidates to this new status. |
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I gathered a few quotes from this Github and the Slack discussion that i want to comment on.
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High-Level Overview
The introduction of a Super Mapper status in the HOT Tasking Manager proposes a new category of mapper above the current ‘Advanced’ level. Unlike the existing system, this new level aims to reflect genuine expertise and experience, addressing issues with the current criteria for advanced mappers.
Purpose: Create a globally recognized pool of highly skilled mappers to support complex projects and reduce the burden on validators.
Related: #3713
Ralph's proposal
Eligibility: Enrolment will be based on peer assessment, supported by an automated flagging system for candidates meeting predefined criteria.
Key Benefits:
Discussion Points
Eligibility Criteria:
Assessment Process:
Recognition Mechanisms:
Integration with Tasking Manager:
Community Impact:
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