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It is impossible to specify a different arrival_time and departure_time in a GTFS-RT trip modification object #487

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miklcct opened this issue Aug 5, 2024 · 3 comments
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miklcct commented Aug 5, 2024

Describe the problem

I want to specify a vehicle on a detour journey which has an extended stop at a station to make up time. It is impossible to do so in a GTFS-RT trip modification object.

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There is a bus which runs along stops A to G. However, a roadwork has forced the bus to skip these stops, so it has to run on a more direct route with an interchange at X. The bus will have an extended layover at X such that it will run on the original static time in the unaffected section, and to allow as many passengers as possible to change there for alternative journeys.

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To allow specifying both arrival and departure times in trip_modifications

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@eliasmbd eliasmbd added GTFS Realtime Issues and Pull Requests that focus on GTFS Realtime Support: Needs Feedback labels Aug 5, 2024
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eliasmbd commented Aug 5, 2024

@miklcct Thank you for posting your first issue here on the google/transit, the official GTFS repository. My name is Elias, and I am the GTFS community manager working for MobilityData. I am sure the community will be able to get back to you as soon as possible.

In the meanwhile, I encourage you to join the official GTFS slack, there you can connect with other community members. This issue was shared there for extra visibility.

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gcamp commented Aug 13, 2024

@miklcct do you have suggestion on how to design this into the current Trip Modification object? I understand your need but not your proposed solution.

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miklcct commented Aug 14, 2024

There is a field called travel_time_to_stop in the ReplacementStop object. It only specifies the arrival time at the replacement stop relative to the reference stop. If we can add a layover field (in seconds, default 0) in the object it can show a separate departure time as well.

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