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add concepts for (modelling) uncertainties #1829
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Any comments on my proposal? |
I propose the following definitions for the new classes(and istances) given in the draft:
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These definitions are all based on the paper linked above. I'm less sure on how to define the classes that are able to receive the 'location of uncertainty'-role.
I'm happy to change any or all of these definitions if anyone has any feedback. |
Thanks for the suggestions.
Ok, I like the definitions. I think we should label the subclasses above
Fine. |
Call it
This one is a bit tricky. We already have
I think there are already some of these concepts part of OEO. Could you check that please? |
Alright, i will change the labels of the instances of |
Let's keep the |
I also checked the oeo and did find |
Should I also add new issues for the terms I could not find yet? |
If these terms are to be defined separately, we are mainly missing the relations between model and the aspects of uncertainty. |
Could you please link the new issues here. With the PR, you don't have to wait for theses issues. We can integrate them later. |
I like the idea of a new relation (subproperty of |
And with |
I would define the relations as follows: subclasses of subclass of Should we also add a relation like And I would suggest defining |
When adding the relations, should I also define the inverse of each of them? |
Should |
I think it lies in the nature of models to depart from complete determinism. I actually think, it is ok for a |
"caused" is misleading here, its not a causal relation. What about ... within x is of kind y.?
What about ... that indicates the severity of uncertainty (y) within x. ?
Ok. |
I don't think it should be possible for a model to have a Since the model is already related to the 3 axes of Or maybe there is a way use |
Alright I added the relations with the improved definitons |
I think we should link
If you agree with this proposal, we'd have to reconsider the definitions of the relations once again, as they'd now hold between uncertainty and nature/level/location instead of model and nature/level/location. The new definitions could be as follows: This has the side effect, that relation between model and nature/level/location becomes much more abstract. We could instead do something like:
But I'm not sure if this congruent with the rest of the oeo, since I could not find a similarly structured definition. I also considered the parthood relation you suggested, but |
I think this is a very good point. To me a whole and its part is a very open definition that fits lots of things but I would also be fine with specific new relationships as in the graphic. It is very possible that I am looking at I like your new graphic, even though quality of a quality is not as BFO intended. It was done before after all. And this feels like it captures the content pretty well. |
Alright I've implemented all changes as discussed. |
After further discussion with @stap-m and @ColinHDev we came to the decision, that we can use e.g.
We also further deliberated on whether or not to make uncertainty a generically dependant continuant, but decided against it for now. This was based on the decision detailed above, since this change would mainly have solved our issue of not wanting a quality to depend on another quality |
We also discussed how to procede with this issue.
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"quality of quality" is confusing wording. Qualities should not have other qualities as qualities, but nevertheless, there may exist other relations between two qualities, than "has quality". |
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This is a requirement of SLE project.
The uncertainty matrix by Kwakkel, Walker and Marchau is used.
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